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Title: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on September 19, 2014, 03:56:21 PM
Live action show picked up for series by CBS. It's the same creators of Arrow and Flash interestingly enough.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on September 20, 2014, 01:17:23 AM
at the rate they're going DC is going to have a show on every network
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SupTool on September 20, 2014, 01:33:55 AM
Except ABC since they're owned by Disney, which owns Marvel
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on October 30, 2014, 02:53:32 PM
Synopsis

Regarding the premise of the series: Kara at age 12 was sent from her dying home planet of Krypton to Earth, where she was taken in by the Danvers, a foster family who taught her to be careful with her extraordinary powers. After repressing said skills for more than a decade, Kara is forced to use her powers to stop an unexpected disaster. Energized by her heroism for the first time in her life, she begins embracing her abilities in the name of helping the people of her city, earning herself a super moniker along the way.
Kara’s sister Alex was partly jealous of her sibling yet also fascinated by her abilities, prompting Alex to learn as much as she could about alien anthropology, sociology and culture. Today, Alex works for a secret government organization and, alongside her heroic sis, will face many challenges, both mundane and super.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Beer_Baron on October 30, 2014, 07:15:42 PM
Kara Danvers?

Sounds like an F-U to Marvel.  Was that her name in the comics?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on October 30, 2014, 07:31:35 PM
Not related to Marvel at all, but it's a little confusing to explain.

Linda Danvers is one of the few civilian names Supergirl (Kara) has had over several decades. Then in the 90's they created a completely different non-Kryptonian Supergirl whose real name was Linda Danvers (the Matrix Supergirl).

They're just taking her more common name Kara and combining it with Danvers (the Kent like family who adopt her).
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Beer_Baron on October 30, 2014, 10:51:19 PM
It's just very similar to Carol Danvers.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: benlinus on October 31, 2014, 12:30:54 AM
they should get laura vandervort to do the role even though she already played it before on smallville. I do not think she is doing much in her career lately other than her brief role in Ted which game out years ago and V was cancelled.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on October 31, 2014, 12:48:46 AM
She was a great Supergirl. Smallville barely explored her and she fizzled out by the end.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on December 02, 2014, 07:12:33 PM
The show runner for Arrow/Flash and also Supergirl said she could share the same universe as Flash and Arrow, but it hasn't been decided yet.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on December 02, 2014, 08:25:57 PM
Is he taking votes? I vote yes
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SupTool on January 22, 2015, 05:24:39 PM
Melissa Benoist cast as Supergirl
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Prime on January 23, 2015, 12:29:58 PM
Yeah, Vandervoort is on another series now called Bitten, I think it's in it's second year now.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on January 30, 2015, 11:15:30 AM
True Blood's Mehcad Brooks cast as Jimmy Olsen - let the rioting begin!

(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/01/jimmy-olsen-120191.jpg)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on January 30, 2015, 11:32:26 AM
idiotic
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Post by: Zandrax on January 30, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
I dunno who the actor is, but I have no problem with a black Jimmy Olson.

Though it's a bit weird to have Jimmy Olson and no Superman.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on February 23, 2015, 05:13:18 PM
Callista Flockhart as Cat Grant.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on March 04, 2015, 08:15:54 AM
Jeremy Jordan cast as Toyman.

Based on further details, Kara actually works for Cat Grant in her company CatCo. Guy that becomes Toyman is a part of that company.

Superman already exists and is famous, so I'm curious to see how they explain him on the show and the two not meeting.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on March 06, 2015, 04:24:30 PM
Costume - looks like the Man of Steel colors, should match Flash and Arrow color tones if they ever crossover.
(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/03/supergirl-first-look-126487.jpg)
(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/03/supergirl-full-01-126484.jpg)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: RealMarchHare on March 06, 2015, 05:10:57 PM
Not bad looking.

Speaking of Flash/Arrow crossover.  Everyday I read Stephen Amell's Facebook updates the more and more I'm beginning to think DC has retained rights to all the shows and that there are no network lines that can't be crossed in regards to the shows so that cross overs can happen.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on March 06, 2015, 05:49:45 PM
I like the look too.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on March 07, 2015, 02:21:12 AM
Not bad looking.

Speaking of Flash/Arrow crossover.  Everyday I read Stephen Amell's Facebook updates the more and more I'm beginning to think DC has retained rights to all the shows and that there are no network lines that can't be crossed in regards to the shows so that cross overs can happen.

I think he's just too optimistic, not in a bad way, but not in a realistic way either. He even thought they could crossover with Constantine.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: RealMarchHare on March 07, 2015, 03:33:22 AM
He's not saying they will.  It's just that I can't think of any other case where a celebrity has been allowed to promote and congratulate shows on a rival network like he has.  He does it so often it feels like DC has the ability to use whichever show with whichever show they want.  Probably not true but I'm all for Captain Amell and his optimism about this.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on March 07, 2015, 10:46:51 AM
Well it all depends on DC, Warner, and the individual networks with what they want to do with those shows.

The show runner for Arrow/Flash worked out a deal to make Supergirl share the same universe as the CW shows, including the superhero team up spin off, but the CBS executive said they want to keep it separate for now.

Also
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Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: RealMarchHare on March 07, 2015, 02:25:05 PM
That picture is great.  Hell never really realized how movie ready those costumes are.  To bad DC doesn't want to use the Golden Geese they've been given...
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on March 07, 2015, 02:55:13 PM
(https://scontent-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10411106_389386841231356_1268331094827118766_n.jpg?oh=91e261a89ac4eb1be1dcf67996099bad&oe=557D543E)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 07, 2015, 11:29:36 AM
Picked up for a full season.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 13, 2015, 12:04:38 PM
Time slot announced. Mondays at 8pm, same time as Gotham in November.

Quote
SUPERGIRL is an action-adventure drama based on the DC Comics character Kara Zor-El (Melissa Benoist), Superman’s (Kal-El) cousin who, after 12 years of keeping her powers a secret on Earth, decides to finally embrace her superhuman abilities and be the hero she was always meant to be. Twelve-year-old Kara escaped the doomed planet Krypton with her parents’ help at the same time as the infant Kal-El. Protected and raised on Earth by her foster family, the Danvers, Kara grew up in the shadow of her foster sister, Alex (Chyler Leigh), and learned to conceal the phenomenal powers she shares with her famous cousin in order to keep her identity a secret. Years later at 24, Kara lives in National City assisting media mogul and fierce taskmaster Cat Grant (Golden Globe Award winner Calista Flockhart), who just hired the Daily Planet’s former photographer, James Olsen (Mehcad Brooks), as her new art director. However, Kara’s days of keeping her talents a secret are over when Hank Henshaw (David Harewood), head of a super-secret agency where her sister also works, enlists her to help them protect the citizens of National City from sinister threats. Though Kara will need to find a way to manage her newfound empowerment with her very human relationships, her heart soars as she takes to the skies as Supergirl to fight crime. Greg Berlanti (“The Flash,” “Arrow”), Ali Adler, Sarah Schecter and Andrew Kreisberg are executive producers for Berlanti Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television. The pilot was directed by Glen Winter (“Arrow”).
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 13, 2015, 06:15:35 PM
Trailer

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm46-envrHo

 I can totally see why the CW passed on this if they're going for the male demographic. I can also see how this is from the same team as Arrow and Flash, but I hope it's more like the CW shows and less Mindy Project. That trailer just screamed girl power a little too much.

I like how much Superman is referenced. I'd be really annoyed if they did this show and always tried avoiding any reference to him.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 13, 2015, 07:03:20 PM
I don't know, but I'll give it a shot
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SupTool on May 13, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
I'm thinking/hoping the girl power stuff is only in the first episode.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: RealMarchHare on May 13, 2015, 07:29:32 PM
That is...interesting...
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on May 13, 2015, 08:41:18 PM
Looks like it's aiming for the Gilmore Girls crowd.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 13, 2015, 09:30:16 PM
I liked Gilmore Girls. Last thing I enjoyed Melissa McCarthy in 
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 13, 2015, 09:36:12 PM
I'll give it a chance.

What I'd really like to see is a Batgirl show, though.  Specifically Cassandra Cain..  Her back story has tv drama written all over it, what with being raised by an assassin to be a living weapon, not even learning how to communicate other then through body language reading, and eventually being taken under Batmans wing and discovering friends, boys, and yearning for a life outside of fighting.

Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: FreebirdSTF on May 13, 2015, 11:13:53 PM
I liked it fine. I will try to give it a look.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 14, 2015, 12:51:50 AM
Just to put some things into perspective:

1. This is made by the same people as Arrow and Flash. CBS and CW are sister networks, but CBS has a much bigger budget, so it will potentially look better than the previous two production wise.

2. This is just a trailer for the pilot episode. They'll accomplish more in this episode than ten years of Smallville.

3. The guy that asks Kara out and helps her out with her Supergirl outfit is the future Toyman, and looks to be her Cisco/Felicity archetype. Or you can look at him as the Caitlin archetype, future villain, current ally and friend of the protagonist.

4. The military guy hunting bad meta humans is Hank Henshaw, who is working with Supergirl, maybe as the Harrison Wells of the show. Bad guy helping out the hero, but with bad intentions. Maybe.

And just for fun
(https://scontent-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11230040_414916398678400_7157343027444581384_n.jpg?oh=a433a4070d149fc6b9c009cb99735558&oe=55CE2E15)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 14, 2015, 11:08:28 AM
After watching the horrible Jem and the Holograms trailer, the girl power stuff in this doesn't feel as bad.

Hopefully this is just a bad CBS marketing team misrepresenting a good show.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 14, 2015, 07:34:15 PM
This is a parody of how clueless Marvel would be on making a Black Widow movie, but it is eerily similar to the real Supergirl trailer, almost too much.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_5KgpN38hM
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: RealMarchHare on May 14, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
Keep in mind they are doing a Ms. Marvel movie
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 15, 2015, 09:37:35 PM
Trailer re-cut without any of the nonsense.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3dkwFObqSM
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 22, 2015, 10:13:22 AM
Pilot leaked online...only 6 months early.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: RealMarchHare on May 22, 2015, 08:31:11 PM
Pilot leaked online...only 6 months early.

Happened with both Flash and Constantine.  I don't believe they're leaks anymore lol
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 22, 2015, 10:28:05 PM
I actually watched an HD copy on Youtube before it was taken down  :lol:

Pilot was decent, nothing special. It was like the trailer, with less of a feminist heavy tone, but it's still the theme of episode.

It was closer to the Flash than Arrow, but even more light hearted since this has almost no tragedy in her origin.

I think the strongest part of the episode the opening origin flashback of how she came Earth and who she meets right away, including her adopted parents.

It's just the pilot, but my main problem with the show is Kara herself. Personality wise, she's a weak goofy pushover. And I don't think she's pretending like Superman does as Clark as his disguise. I've always liked the recent portrayal of Supergirl with Jeph Loeb before he left for Marvel where she's Superman without the humility, due to her adolescence on Earth. She knows how powerful she is and walks through people who want to put her in her place.

Overall, I want to keep watching more and see where they go with this considering it's from Greg Berlanti, same guy behind Flash and Arrow. They'd be foolish not to tie this in with the other three shows. Cisco's reaction to her would be awesome and you have to put Brandon Routh/Atom with her eventually.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on October 31, 2015, 10:03:03 AM
This summary is accurate.

And of course for us geeks there would be the hilarity of seeing a former Superman meeting the current Supergirl.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on October 31, 2015, 10:24:34 AM
Didn't Loeb also write her going over to Darkseid's team due to teen drama bs?

But yeah, maybe Kara will grow into her role and gain confidence...  So far, everyone's protected her and lied to her, so acting off balance is understandable..

Now, if they're shooting for an "endearing" Clark Kent for the long haul, that would be a mistake..  Even a timid, socially awkward teen isn't going to find a timid, socially awkward supergirl relatable, and be put off about it like everyone else...
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on October 31, 2015, 10:28:56 AM

Loeb's Supergirl is the most interesting take on her I've ever seen and really hoped it'd be this show's version.


CBS kind of said they won't do any crossovers with Flash and Arrow oil the show becomes successful on it's own, which is fair I suppose. I'm wondering how that would be possible anyway. Cisco would be talking about how bad ass Superman was all the time since he exists already. The best and easiest loophole would be the current multiverse and multiple Earths storyline on the Flash. Just make Superman and Supergirl from Earth 3 or something where Flash and Green Arrow don't exist.


Someone on another board pointed out why is she wearing glasses even before needed a secret identity.

Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on October 31, 2015, 11:05:10 AM
Didn't Loeb also write her going over to Darkseid's team due to teen drama bs?

But yeah, maybe Kara will grow into her role and gain confidence...  So far, everyone's protected her and lied to her, so acting off balance is understandable..

Now, if they're shooting for an "endearing" Clark Kent for the long haul, that would be a mistake..  Even a timid, socially awkward teen isn't going to find a timid, socially awkward supergirl relatable, and be put off about it like everyone else...

If memory serves that was a recently awoken Supergirl.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on October 31, 2015, 06:53:05 PM
Quote

Someone on another board pointed out why is she wearing glasses even before needed a secret identity.

Well, they established she knows all about her cousin.  So, it's not that unusual she'd follow in his footsteps.

Plus, as a space alien, jusf blending into Earth culture counts as a "secret identity", whether or not she puts on a cape.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on November 26, 2015, 11:29:54 PM
Flash rumored to make an appearance during the final episodes.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on February 04, 2016, 02:12:37 AM
This show started out just OK, but it keeps getting better. And it's confirmed we're getting Flash on March 28.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on February 07, 2016, 10:18:29 AM
I like this better than the current season of Arrow now. Ever since the Martian Manhunter reveal, this show only keeps getting better.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on February 07, 2016, 11:20:33 AM
Best "Super" show since Lois and Clark, imo.

And possibly the first good Supergirl thing in ANYTHING ever.  Movies, animated, comics have almost never done her justice.

Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on February 08, 2016, 07:02:39 AM
Jeph Loeb's brief run on her I thought was really good, the one where Michael Turner did the art work. This all lead up the World's Finest story line where Darkseid controlled her.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on February 08, 2016, 07:55:05 AM
Jeph Loeb's brief run on her I thought was really good, the one where Michael Turner did the art work. This all lead up the World's Finest story line where Darkseid controlled her.

Yep, I think I have the trade paperbacks on that. I loved Michael Turner's take on Darkseid.

EW has a clip that shows Hank disguised as Kara which is amazing. Props to the acting.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/05/supergirl-hank-kara-black-mercy-video

I just hope in the third act we get Kara yelling "BURN!"
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on February 09, 2016, 08:59:58 AM
That adaption was fantastic. It still fit all the established characters. So much so that it stands on its own. The only discrepancy in the plot is that nobody tried to contact Supes.

Too bad we didn't get Supergirl yelling "BURN!" at Non, but with all the good we got I'm OK with it.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on February 09, 2016, 11:18:21 AM
Yeah I get she doesn't want his help on a regular basis but when there are a half dozen krytonians running around seems like the time to ask for help
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on February 09, 2016, 12:34:55 PM
I missed the "burn", too.

Liked how Non kept his poker face as Supergirl was beating the crap out of him.  Not even an "is that all you've got"  sneer, just a bored "I don't have time for this" look.

Really establishes just how much of a threat he really is.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on February 09, 2016, 02:21:46 PM
Yeah I get she doesn't want his help on a regular basis but when there are a half dozen krytonians running around seems like the time to ask for help

And there's the whole "Uh, Superman, you're cousin is near death with something we have no understanding of...."
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on February 09, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
The martian's pretty anal about bringing in outsiders, no matter what, so that's probably on him.

Also would assume Superman's simply caught up with other crisis's, like how Barry rarely has time to bail out Ollie.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on February 23, 2016, 12:03:30 PM

Silver Banshee and Livewire filming the crossover


(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10325567_10208989667086652_84716177687999820_n.jpg?oh=5ed82544d4fc248ae459883019f2eac1&oe=575C65ED)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/1915612_10208989667806670_3546447684638262762_n.jpg?oh=26a81e58b051bee256850842007c3a33&oe=576B6360)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on March 08, 2016, 01:06:31 PM
I thought it was great to include the Fortress Of Solitude.

Show is officially renewed for a second season.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on March 08, 2016, 03:35:25 PM
Hoping for a Supergirl/Flash race.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on March 09, 2016, 07:53:02 PM
They featured the Legion Ring on Supergirl


(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/10273470_10207805531910274_281433286005426989_n.jpg?oh=83c95e0685c0d7c14e21c59b2dec295a&oe=574C8399)


Which was also seen on The Flash right before visiting Earth 2


(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12705783_10153271388651906_877492724166266320_n.jpg?oh=d653222d4acda3089f062647fd6ed4c8&oe=5734AB9F)


Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on March 09, 2016, 08:01:04 PM
Hoping for a Supergirl/Flash race.


Official promo from the show
(http://cdn.movieweb.com/img.site/PHD1XJIgGN78HD_3_l.jpg)


Hold onto your capes and dust off your running shoes because we've got new intel on the epic Supergirl (http://movieweb.com/supergirl-tv-show-photo-legion-super-heroes/)/ The Flash crossover, which airs Monday, March 28 on CBS. In the episode entitled World's Finest (http://movieweb.com/tv/supergirl/season-1/), Supergirl (http://movieweb.com/tv/supergirl/) joins forces with a lightning-fast-and super dreamy-hero, The Flash (Grant Gustin (http://movieweb.com/person/grant-gustin/)), to take out two villains. Lost and confused after spiraling from his universe and landing in Kara's, The Flash (http://movieweb.com/tv/the-flash-2014/) asks for her help in finding his way back home.
[/size]Excited to finally come face-to-face with one of the good guys, Kara agrees on one condition: The super-runner has to help her take down her ultra-competitive co-worker and screeching malefactor Siobhan, aka Silver Banshee, and Supergirl's old nemesis, Livewire. Packed with action, excitement, and a bit of super-flirting, this is an episode you do not want to miss. Italia Ricci returns as Silver Banshee alongside Brit Morgan as Livewire.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on March 09, 2016, 08:56:04 PM
So Supergirl exists in a universe separate from Earth 1 and 2.  Interesting.

That also means no Superman?  He's normally an inspiration for heroes everywhere, but it looks like not in the WB verse..  (Unless every universe has a Superman, but not a Supergirl..)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on March 09, 2016, 11:42:19 PM
Well they all exist, just not on the same Earth. Didn't the JSA and JLA at one point exist on different earths?

Legends of tomorrow also alluded to Batman and Superman.

The Bruce, Diana, Hal Easter egg on Earth 2 could have implied they're regular people on earth 2 but heroes elsewhere.

Either way, the multiverse loophole created on the Flash really allows loopholes around this mess.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on March 10, 2016, 09:26:57 AM
Yeah, JSA existed on Earth 2, and JLA was on Earth 1.  It was essentially DC's way of expaining where the golden age heroes like Jay and Alan Scott went, when the new guys took over.

They each had their own Superman, though.

I'm assuming there's only one Superman in the tv series, which is cool.  I was simply making the observation that DC used to push Superman as being the "prototype" super hero who inspired an entire line of heroes, and that this happened on every Earth.

But that trends kind of changed a bit...  He's still important, but it wasn't Superman who was central to DC's reboot.  It was Barry Allen. 

Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on March 10, 2016, 06:45:22 PM
Yeah, JSA existed on Earth 2, and JLA was on Earth 1.  It was essentially DC's way of expaining where the golden age heroes like Jay and Alan Scott went, when the new guys took over.

They each had their own Superman, though.

I'm assuming there's only one Superman in the tv series, which is cool.  I was simply making the observation that DC used to push Superman as being the "prototype" super hero who inspired an entire line of heroes, and that this happened on every Earth.

But that trends kind of changed a bit...  He's still important, but it wasn't Superman who was central to DC's reboot.  It was Barry Allen. 



And of course the Flash pilot episode did have a reference to Crisis On Infinite Earths.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on March 10, 2016, 09:37:59 PM
In the pre 52, Barry actually became the speed force lightning that struck himself years ago, after he had saved the entire universe.

If the Flash tv show ever ends, it'd be pretty epic if they ended it that way as they go back to the first episode full circle.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on April 19, 2016, 01:14:03 AM
Season Finale was tonight. I chuckled at all the references to the 1984 Supergirl movie with the Omega Hedron, and Helen Slater.

It does seem like Season 2 will be The Quest To Find Jeremiah Danvers.

So what was the new Kryptonian arrival? Superboy? Eradicator? Doomsday?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on April 19, 2016, 11:48:43 AM
First thought was, Krypto the Superdog.  :)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on April 19, 2016, 06:41:19 PM
First thought was, Krypto the Superdog.  :)

I actually tweeted to them it better not be
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on April 19, 2016, 06:52:20 PM
Superboy would be neat, but not sure how they'd pull it off.  To date, he's been a clone, so they'd have to completely reinvent him.

Guess it could work, though.  Distant cousin?  Or some random kid that survived?  Or how about Non and/or Astras son? 
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on May 05, 2016, 08:09:11 PM
Allegedly the show may not get a Season 2 due to budget reasons, and it may wind up on The CW.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 05, 2016, 09:09:54 PM
Which probably means a love triangle between Jimmy, Kara, and Max.

Guess a CW show is better then no show at all..

Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 05, 2016, 09:34:34 PM
That would be great actually.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 05, 2016, 10:09:25 PM
...yeah, I wasn't really thinking this through. Maxwell Lord and Jimmy vying for Kara is the opposite of lame teen romance drama..
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 06, 2016, 01:57:28 PM
A shared universe would also be easier.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 06, 2016, 06:48:01 PM
I'm ok with a move to CW

When did legends reference Superman?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on May 06, 2016, 06:55:02 PM
I'm ok with a move to CW

When did legends reference Superman?

Rip said something to the effect of "I've seen Men Of Steel die and Dark Knights fall" in an early episode.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 06, 2016, 07:00:06 PM
AH, right - forgot that, thanks
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on May 12, 2016, 05:46:11 PM
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/12/supergirl-renewed-cw

Show officially renewed for Season 2, but it will be moving to CW
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 12, 2016, 06:12:15 PM
So what's it replacing?

Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on May 13, 2016, 10:17:28 AM
Welcome home Supergirl.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 13, 2016, 06:06:13 PM
So what's it replacing?



good question
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SupTool on May 13, 2016, 06:36:52 PM
I'd guess whatever is after the Flash normally.  Right now it's that "limited series event" Containment. 
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 13, 2016, 08:05:51 PM
iZombie. So I hope not
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SupTool on May 13, 2016, 08:12:53 PM
Ah shoot, I forgot about that show.  Yeah I don't think that's getting canned. 
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on May 13, 2016, 08:34:20 PM
What about Monday?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on May 19, 2016, 08:35:15 PM
Show confirmed to be keeping it's Monday 8PM timeslot.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on June 06, 2016, 10:51:12 PM
Superman to appear in the first episode of season 2 as an actual character and not in the background.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on June 06, 2016, 11:58:51 PM
I wonder if they'll talk to Welling?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: tfbrave on June 07, 2016, 07:37:17 AM
I could see that and certainly wouldn't mind it but I think they have to establish Welling is not the Smallville Clark/Superman. When you consider the Mulitverse and doppelgangers established in the Flash/Arrow plus the actors and actresses crossing over from those shows as well as the Superman/Supergirl moves to play different characters, you could pluck a past character from any of the shows/movies to play Superman (hopefully not Michael Rosenbaum).


Not sure how much I would like it but it would make some sense to be the Brandon Routh Superman.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on June 07, 2016, 12:19:23 PM
I doubt they'll Jay Garrick the Superman role.

Welling has his own CBS show which he'll also produce. I can see him do a cameo as a different Superman one day, like Kingdom Come Superman from another Earth.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on June 08, 2016, 09:47:11 PM
Wonder if Brandon Routh regrets being tied to Atom? 

So any ideas on who could play a good Superman AND Clark?

Is it even certain they'll pick a white guy?  These days, changing race/gender for secondary characters is old news, and doesn't get attention anymore.  But do a "female Thor", and that could be publicity..  (I hope they don't go that route, and don't really think it likely, but these things do happen..)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on June 08, 2016, 10:47:13 PM
Wonder if Brandon Routh regrets being tied to Atom? 

So any ideas on who could play a good Superman AND Clark?

Is it even certain they'll pick a white guy?  These days, changing race/gender for secondary characters is old news, and doesn't get attention anymore.  But do a "female Thor", and that could be publicity..  (I hope they don't go that route, and don't really think it likely, but these things do happen..)
The introduction to the show clearly shows Supes is white.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on June 08, 2016, 11:32:05 PM
It's going to be an Indian Superman.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on June 08, 2016, 11:56:12 PM
The introduction to the show clearly shows Supes is white.

Transgender Superman, then.. :)

Yeah, forgot about baby Supes.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on June 09, 2016, 12:56:49 AM
Anyways..

What's Tom Welling up to?  Wouldn't he be an obvious choice?

Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on June 16, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
I think someone mentioned above Tom Welling is busy with his own CBS show.

Teen Wolf's Tyler Hoechlin cast as Superman however.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: SCB on June 21, 2016, 11:38:20 PM
Lynda Carter to appear this season.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: dam skippy on September 16, 2016, 08:39:00 AM
Just finished binge watching this.  It is a perfect fit for the CW.  It's a little bit like Flash vs Earth 2 but it works.
 I liked the Flash cross-over.   It's hard to take Nom seriously for some reason.  MMH is awesome.  They did well with him.  I'll watch it regularly from now on.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: FreebirdSTF on September 16, 2016, 08:43:22 AM
I don't like the look of that Superman at all.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 15, 2017, 08:19:36 PM
that cat grant speech was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen - I was actually hoping they would kill her after that
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 16, 2017, 09:49:26 AM
that cat grant speech was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen - I was actually hoping they would kill her after that

lmao.

The writers must like eating salt with their salt.  They're always been "in your face" progressive, but that was something else.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 16, 2017, 10:27:20 AM
So what happened to the Metallo anti-kryptonite counter measures?

If the Kryptonite cannon was a problem..
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 16, 2017, 10:38:02 AM
Lead...  Daxamites are vulnerable to lead..

I never really thought about it, but this kills my long held image of Daxamites being just like Kryptonians. but Mon-El in the comics could never pull off the iconic "bullets bouncing off chest" image like Superman can.  He'd be killed by a common gun.  O_o
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 16, 2017, 11:38:08 AM
Bullets aren't really made of lead Dan


Twitter ate up that cat bullshit by the way
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 16, 2017, 12:34:25 PM
Bullets aren't really made of lead Dan


Twitter ate up that cat bullshit by the way

Doesn't it depend on the manufactrer?  I know there's tungston bullets and such, but I thought I'd read about lead bullet production plants. 

Here it is:


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/21/end-line-for-lead-bullet-regulations-bans-force-switch-to-green-ammo.html

Google is my friend today, it seems (Other days I can never find what I want..)

Edit:  Ah, I see now.  "Jacketed lead".

Copper core, usually.  So they aren't made of lead. 

Still good enough to poison a Daxamite though.  Superman in every way, but an even lamer weakness then a glowing rock.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 17, 2017, 11:06:57 PM
Mon-El's father was named Lar-Gand?

Interesting, Lar-Gand was the alias Mon-El was using back in the 1990's comic book series L.E.G.I.O.N. 89/90/whenever.  (Not to be confused with the Legion of Superheroes.  It was a group of space aliens in the "present" time period (As opposed to the future, where Mon-El and the LOS live as a teenage group of heroes)

Not sure why he was called that, exactly.  I also believe in the Legion of Superhero time from the future, he started going by Valor instead of Mon-El (It's a long story, but the 1990's had a lot of experimentation and Watchmen influence.  One of these projects was an adult Legion existing in a post Superboy world, with a bunch of new characters and a grittier "contemporary" theme..)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 23, 2017, 01:32:34 AM
Silver Kryptonite.  Last I heard about that was in an old Jimmy Olson comic, and it was a fake rock painted silver (Forget why, but probably another scheme to get Supes to reveal his identity.)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the air "already" have trace amounts of lead in it?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 23, 2017, 01:32:54 AM
Silver Kryptonite.  Last I heard about that was in an old Jimmy Olson comic, and it was a fake rock painted silver (Forget why, but probably another scheme to get Supes to reveal his identity.)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the air "already" have trace amounts of lead in it?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 23, 2017, 09:04:36 AM
Anyways, have to give them credit for the opening slugfest, and the result.  It was a bold move.

The message is clear:  We're all in investing in OUR character.  We don't care who's more popular.

This kind of outcome never even happened in her personal comic book stories (Heck, even Wonder Woman was protected from jobbing to her like she's The Game. :) )
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 23, 2017, 10:01:33 AM
That was pretty good but why didn't Rhea use the silver kryptonite on Kara?
Very little Cat which was good
I'm assuming that was a time warp Mon-El went into


Who was in the rocket?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 23, 2017, 10:19:18 AM
I'm guessing pride.  Rhea hates Supergirl for stealing away and turning her son against her.  So she has to break her, and making her fight her own cousin plays in to that.

Same reason she so readily accepted a fight to the death, even though she had absolutely nothing to gain from it (Even if she was obligated to accept by custom, she already proved she has no sense of honor at all, and probably wouldn't have accepted the fight unless she really wanted to.)
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 23, 2017, 05:08:26 PM
The fight was well done - her blood being tainted with Kryptonite was a nice touch


feminists are savaging the show on twitter LOL
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 23, 2017, 05:38:54 PM
What the...??

I know people can argue against anything, but why?   Because it implies Superman is "the standard bearer" or some shite?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 24, 2017, 07:30:31 PM
because she was dating a slave owning misogynist


not my words obviously
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 24, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
because she was dating a slave owning misogynist


not my words obviously

Then Supergirl did a good job of making Mon-El the representation of "White guilt", I guess.

While also seriously underestimating how unforgiving SJW's are about that kind of thing.  Mon-El could literally tear his heart out and transplant it into Kara before he dies, and they'd still dogpile on him for what he represents..
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 24, 2017, 09:02:47 PM
I see what you mean.  The internet hates Mon-El...  I mean HATES him.

Per.example:  http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/supergirl/262398/supergirl-season-2-has-a-love-interest-problem

Den of Geek should change their name.  All they do is harp about sjw issues..
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 25, 2017, 08:30:19 PM
I don't get the problem with him
Isn't character growth a good thing?
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 25, 2017, 09:04:12 PM
A theory I keep hearing is a lot of the people complaining wanted Lena/Kara.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: Zandrax on May 26, 2017, 12:50:15 PM
I don't get the problem with him
Isn't character growth a good thing?
Exactly. They complain about White Male Privilege. Then a Privileged White Male acknowledges his White Male Privilege in an attempt to be a better person.

...And they STILL complain. You can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: BobbyR on May 28, 2017, 10:35:40 AM
fucking shippers
Title: Re: Supergirl (CBS)
Post by: DocSavage on May 29, 2017, 02:50:55 PM
There's another thing I'm finding:

The fact Mon-El needs Kara to help navigate social norms is considered a burdon on Kara. 

It's basically the old "it's not my responsibility to teach you". They don't want someone that's willing to grow, they just want a ready made "peer" who they could live their life with.

It's an impossible standard that lets them play victim at every angle (The privilege take their privilege for granted vs the privileged expects me to waste my time explaining his privilege to him!)

All I really hear from that is "Gotta get angry at someone, and this sounds like a good excuse.."