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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2016, 09:20:26 PM »
And while Kendra had a reason to spare him, Rip's was because, why.  To ask for permission first? 

How stupid is that?  If he just kills he, what's the worst that happens?  He can't become a Time Lord anymore?

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2016, 09:05:35 AM »
I give up.  Forget about internal logic or whatever, just enjoy it like you would Gotham.

Vandal Savage is mankinds only hope, because the Time Lords said so.  And now we learn they've been...  controlling time.  The Lords of Time preserve the timeline by manipulating thr !@#$ out of it. 

That plot device reveal in general is pretty unnecessary.  As if time travel shows weren't confusing enough, it just brings up too many questions.

Ok, so why not control an outcome where Savage isn't a violent murderer despot?  And why can't they simply redirect the Thanagarian invasion, so they don't attack Earth?  Is it ONLY capable of controlling time travelers, or something?  But that's not what they said..  From their words,  it implied they were creating outcomes, and not simply redirecting the time ship.


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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2016, 10:05:25 PM »
So, when Kendra asked Savage not to kill Rip's family, he should have said "ok".

That's only the ENTIRE reason he put that group together to stop him.

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #53 on: May 17, 2016, 05:22:52 PM »
Been reading Grant Morrison's run on Animal Man, which is excellent, and came across this scene that's pretty funny after seeing how Rip Hunter acts on the show.

Basically, Animal Man loses his family, and he gets the crazy idea of getting a time machine.  So after a few dead ends, he contact Booster Gold and has him get Rip.  Of course, Rip Hunter gives him a lecture about how fooling with time is dangerous, the machines are VERY expensive, and they can't just let an amateur hop around time.  Then Rip finally asks what he even needs it for.

And Animal Man looks him in the eye and says "The Time Commander and the Lord of Time have teamed up against the Justice League.  I need a time machine to track down their base."

And just like that, Rip hands over a machine.  Doesn't even check with Booster or the JLA.

I guess Rip Hunter's always been kind of a shmuck, and not just on the tv show.  :)

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2016, 11:45:44 PM »
Well we got our setup for Season Two. Hourman is warning the team not to go on their next adventure.

We also know why they are casting two new regulars for the next season, as Hawkman and Hawkgirl left.

So much for the rumor of a different team each season.

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2016, 12:48:41 AM »
Not gonna be the same without Snart.  :(

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2016, 12:24:39 PM »
he going back to prison break?

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2016, 01:14:14 PM »
he going back to prison break?

Yeah, he's back on Prison Break, but he's allegedly agreed to return to Flash as a recurring character.

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2016, 02:50:55 PM »
Yeah, he's back on Prison Break, but he's allegedly agreed to return to Flash as a recurring character.

Probably the same way he"returned"  at the end of the finale.

Huh, like comic Barry. Snart's basically stolen Barry's gig.  :)

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #59 on: May 20, 2016, 03:24:52 PM »
Another possibility is he got sucked into some vortex. It's science fiction, it's easy to write him back in.

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2016, 03:30:34 PM »
That's true.

Think I'd prefer the death to stick, though.  Keep the heroic sacrifice as is, and use the ambiguity of time travel to show was he was doing pre Legends.

Thought they never should have brough Barry back for real, too.  (Especially when Wally was so much better.  :) )

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2016, 11:16:15 PM »
anyone think the new prison break is gonna last? I never watched the original

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #62 on: May 21, 2016, 11:42:30 AM »
anyone think the new prison break is gonna last? I never watched the original

Neither have I, but my understanding is the new show is a limited series.

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #63 on: May 21, 2016, 12:16:18 PM »
Wentworth Miller is confirmed to be on all the DC shows next season. Not sure how, but he has a nice contract with CW and they seem to value him highly.

Prison Break was a great show, but the last couple of seasons were a major downgrade in quality. And his character does die at the end. Not sure how they're bringing it back or why. Heatwave is his brother on there and also coming back.

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2016, 08:54:14 PM »
Not like killing the shogun and a shitload of samurai will change history

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2016, 09:58:02 PM »
Dr. Who would have burned up severals lives looking at this group.  :)

Still, a fun episode.
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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2016, 03:27:32 PM »
Why can't Ray just build another atom suit?

Drop him off in his own time, then pick him up six months/a year down the road?  Or change history so he has a space made?  Or maybe just go to another era with better tech, and have one built easy?

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #67 on: November 02, 2016, 12:34:22 AM »
Why can't Ray just build another atom suit?

Drop him off in his own time, then pick him up six months/a year down the road?  Or change history so he has a space made?  Or maybe just go to another era with better tech, and have one built easy?

I think Ray will have a new suit by season's end. Ray's calling is definitely playing a factor this year.

Changing history shouldn't be an option based on the beliefs of most of the characters.

I assume he already snuck tons of money into his suit, something he could explain as a bad investment. But then he'd have to do it again, which would be a tougher explanation to any corporate board. Plus the world thinks he's dead, so he's likely out of money anyway. Felicity is still running his company.
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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #68 on: November 02, 2016, 02:17:50 AM »
At this point, it's kind of more a question if they COULD change history, if that last episode with the shogun blowing up in future armor didn't even cause a ripple :p

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #69 on: November 02, 2016, 05:49:53 PM »
One thing I noticed about this week, maybe it'll be addressed in a future episode.

When Mick was attacked by the Ninjas, he was dragged off. However a couple scenes later he's in a Ninja getup helping save the day. So did the ninjas help him? How did he get away?

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #70 on: November 02, 2016, 06:47:52 PM »
One thing I noticed about this week, maybe it'll be addressed in a future episode.

When Mick was attacked by the Ninjas, he was dragged off. However a couple scenes later he's in a Ninja getup helping save the day. So did the ninjas help him? How did he get away?

It would be funny if Mick invented the League of Assassin's.  :)

Better yet, Mick meets The Foot. 

If only, right?  (Ray Palmer's suit survives enough to inspire Shredder's costume.)

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2016, 06:09:21 AM »
He beat the shit out of them

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2016, 08:59:01 PM »
Anyone here ever read the webcomic 8 bit theater?  Used 8 bit Final Fantasy sprites?

At the end of that series, it was revealed the four stooge like "Light Warriors" were being shadowed by a team of four white mages who were the REAL heroes of the story.

Was thinking how all the messes the Legends make of time could be explained as Rip and some time masters basically following them to hot spots, and fixing all the messes they create, because there's NO WAY time should be unaffected by their travels otherwise.  :)

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2016, 12:17:50 AM »

Changing history shouldn't be an option based on the beliefs of most of the characters.



Come to think of it...

Wouldn't they be changing history simply by traveling outside the time stream?  I mean, Ray Palmer isn't running his company,  or doing whatever he'd be doing.  At the least, he neger would have lost his armor.  That's changing history right there:  His own history.

I never really thought about it before, but even ignoring "paradox's", time hopping while trying to avoid altering history is a big catch-22, because the actor's interrupt their personal histories.  They'd gain new experiences, change as people, not to mention lose time off rheir life (Maybe even alter their life spans entirely for good or ill)

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Re: DC's Legends of Tomorrow (CW)
« Reply #74 on: November 20, 2016, 11:25:21 AM »
which is why I usually don't watch time travel stories